tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7861874.post114971769853372677..comments2024-01-08T13:44:54.771-08:00Comments on Dizgraceland: "Exit"-tentialismTimehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07838683246636045823noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7861874.post-1150011178512540612006-06-11T00:32:00.000-07:002006-06-11T00:32:00.000-07:00Shandi, I've seen the "What the bleep" movie. Love...Shandi, I've seen the "What the bleep" movie. Loved it. Anything with Quantum Physics is my cup of tea.Timehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07838683246636045823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7861874.post-1149868542477839482006-06-09T08:55:00.000-07:002006-06-09T08:55:00.000-07:00Yes, this movie is not "existential" really. It's...Yes, this movie is not "existential" really. It's another philosophy altogether but the technique is similiar. I recommend you rent it. <BR/><BR/>Also check out "What the Bleep Do We Know" if you haven't already. It's a philosophy based on quantum physics. Not alltogether perfectly accurate either but well worth the watch. Thought provoking to say the least.Naughti Biscottihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11954505278010003963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7861874.post-1149865102367518032006-06-09T07:58:00.000-07:002006-06-09T07:58:00.000-07:00Shandi, No I haven't even heard of that movie or t...Shandi, No I haven't even heard of that movie or the sequels. But I sounds like my kind of movie. I think the difference between Sarte's existential philosophy (and I can't really speak for Sarte)and the scene you discribe is that someone asked your character if he believed in god and he is punished by an outside force. Existentialist's believe there is no outside force to punish you. You punish yourself.Timehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07838683246636045823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7861874.post-1149861718826409912006-06-09T07:01:00.000-07:002006-06-09T07:01:00.000-07:00Have you seen "The Cube" or it's sequels? They se...Have you seen "The Cube" or it's sequels? They seem to be doing something similiar; concealing a philosophy in an entertaining story. It remains one of my favorite movies.<BR/><BR/>Seven strangers awaken one day to find themselves in a cubical maze. They work together using their skills and talents to survive deadly boobie traps which guard many of the colored cubic rooms. Using mathematical skills, they press forward, upword, and downward through the hatches to try and find the outer shell, the exit.<BR/><BR/>In one of the sequels, when one "apparently" escapes to the exit, he is asked a question, "Do you believe in God?"<BR/><BR/>He answers, "Yes" and is sliced to bits with retractable wires concealed in the floor and walls. <BR/><BR/>I'm thinking now that they may have used some of the same ideas as Sartre.Naughti Biscottihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11954505278010003963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7861874.post-1149801659911942092006-06-08T14:20:00.000-07:002006-06-08T14:20:00.000-07:00Well, THE Michael, you must feel strong about it s...Well, THE Michael, you must feel strong about it since you stated your opinion three times. If I was to take a strictly literal interpretation of the philosophy, I may agree with you. I prefer to view it all in a more karmic sense. Or if you prefer, a more Biblical, "as you reap, so shall you sow."Timehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07838683246636045823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7861874.post-1149788122563409752006-06-08T10:35:00.000-07:002006-06-08T10:35:00.000-07:00The one big problem with this philosophy, as with ...The one big problem with this philosophy, as with most others, is that the responsibility seems to only apply far after the fact, when one dies and then the great cosmic court comes to session. It's nice to be able to do whatever you want, as long as you are responsible for what you do, providing that you are also equiped with your own judge, jury, and executioner. Because we each do not carry around a social "governer" on our backs, we have to establish a societal mechanism to hold people responsible for their actions, because the rapist, murderer, child molestor, and Republican, unfortunately, is having to grand of a time doing what they want, forgetting all about that "responsibility" clause.<BR/><BR/>But, you do what you want, Tim.......just remember that Bob is watching (and laughing his ass off).Alex Pendragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15877845166621794334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7861874.post-1149788081918253292006-06-08T10:34:00.001-07:002006-06-08T10:34:00.001-07:00The one big problem with this philosophy, as with ...The one big problem with this philosophy, as with most others, is that the responsibility seems to only apply far after the fact, when one dies and then the great cosmic court comes to session. It's nice to be able to do whatever you want, as long as you are responsible for what you do, providing that you are also equiped with your own judge, jury, and executioner. Because we each do not carry around a social "governer" on our backs, we have to establish a societal mechanism to hold people responsible for their actions, because the rapist, murderer, child molestor, and Republican, unfortunately, is having to grand of a time doing what they want, forgetting all about that "responsibility" clause.<BR/><BR/>But, you do what you want, Tim.......just remember that Bob is watching (and laughing his ass off).Alex Pendragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15877845166621794334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7861874.post-1149788051754074732006-06-08T10:34:00.000-07:002006-06-08T10:34:00.000-07:00The one big problem with this philosophy, as with ...The one big problem with this philosophy, as with most others, is that the responsibility seems to only apply far after the fact, when one dies and then the great cosmic court comes to session. It's nice to be able to do whatever you want, as long as you are responsible for what you do, providing that you are also equiped with your own judge, jury, and executioner. Because we each do not carry around a social "governer" on our backs, we have to establish a societal mechanism to hold people responsible for their actions, because the rapist, murderer, child molestor, and Republican, unfortunately, is having to grand of a time doing what they want, forgetting all about that "responsibility" clause.<BR/><BR/>But, you do what you want, Tim.......just remember that Bob is watching (and laughing his ass off).Alex Pendragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15877845166621794334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7861874.post-1149778728050963592006-06-08T07:58:00.000-07:002006-06-08T07:58:00.000-07:00Morningstar, Nothing like an educator who thinks i...Morningstar, Nothing like an educator who thinks it is too early for philosophy or math...but to answer your question, yes, I think that believing in choice and consequences could brand you and your kiddies existentialists...or Catholic. :)<BR/><BR/>Hayden, Very nice!Timehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07838683246636045823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7861874.post-1149775899443213172006-06-08T07:11:00.000-07:002006-06-08T07:11:00.000-07:00tim - don't worry, I'm heretim - don't worry, I'm hereHaydenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02758977872663382006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7861874.post-1149760687435398032006-06-08T02:58:00.000-07:002006-06-08T02:58:00.000-07:00honestly philosophy and math before my morning cof...honestly philosophy and math before my morning coffee is way too much for me to handle... <BR/><BR/>but i do have this lil thought buzzing round my head.. i believe in choices .. good and bad.. and the natural consequences that come from our choices.. does that make me an existentialist?? does that make all my kiddies existenialists (because i teach them that theory??) <BR/><BR/>ughhh too much too early .. i am off for my coffee<BR/><BR/>morningstarmorningstarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01500052225655763353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7861874.post-1149750061673145042006-06-08T00:01:00.000-07:002006-06-08T00:01:00.000-07:00Hayden, Send in the clowns. There ought to be clow...Hayden, Send in the clowns. There ought to be clowns. :)Timehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07838683246636045823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7861874.post-1149745062258697252006-06-07T22:37:00.000-07:002006-06-07T22:37:00.000-07:00ahhhh, very significant. You see an exit sign and...ahhhh, very significant. You see an exit sign and think sartre. I see an exit sign and snigger "egress" and think Barnum and Bailey.Haydenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02758977872663382006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7861874.post-1149741938425499252006-06-07T21:45:00.000-07:002006-06-07T21:45:00.000-07:00iridethebus, I'm assuming there is an existential ...iridethebus, I'm assuming there is an existential connection there.<BR/><BR/>Thanks Gina, I like that conclusion :)Timehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07838683246636045823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7861874.post-1149739632589807262006-06-07T21:07:00.000-07:002006-06-07T21:07:00.000-07:00i conclude that you are one hell of a good blogger...i conclude that you are one hell of a good blogger Tim. Great post. <BR/>Hugs, <BR/>~gina~darlinginahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07711518109266141692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7861874.post-1149735217849715002006-06-07T19:53:00.000-07:002006-06-07T19:53:00.000-07:00The Third Policeman, by Flann O'BrienThe Third Policeman, by Flann O'BrienAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com